What is a civil aircraft?

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Re: What is a civil aircraft?

Postby erussell » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:20 pm

Definitions do throw up some anomalies. The subject of our Amodel Beech 1900 conversion is a civil registered one
http://www.adf-gallery.com.au/gallery/B ... d_Farquhar
However for a month or so, VH-EMI became RAAF A53-001. No civil rego therefore not a civilian.
http://www.adf-gallery.com.au/gallery/B ... dle?full=1
Then the sticky numbers were peeled off and it became civil again.
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Re: What is a civil aircraft?

Postby Adam the Akrodude » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:40 pm

X-15 - Civil or military or both? X-15 was funded by USAF & USN and program run by NASA using both civil and military test pilots. Was it civil when being flown by civilian test pilots and military when being flown by military test pilots? It's a curly one and in my mind falls right into the "both" department. Same can be said for the NB-52A/Bs used to launch the "Bull". Because of funding and the "Stars & Bars" on the Bull, to me it is more a military program being run under the wings of a civilian organisation, but I think a good example of just how the lines blur.
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Re: What is a civil aircraft?

Postby oz rb fan » Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:00 pm

Adam,i think of the X15s as military all the time yes flown by civilians on occasions but built to USAF/USN specs and always flown with a military serial...NEVER a civil regerstration.
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Re: What is a civil aircraft?

Postby tor lives » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:11 pm

oz rb fan wrote:..NEVER a civil registration.


But operated by a civil agency....NASA
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Re: What is a civil aircraft?

Postby oz rb fan » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:13 am

but always with a military serial..........i mean if we allow that as a civil plane then a warbird painted mustang(that i have planned)will be covered as it has a German civil registration .......the majority aircraft of NASA operates are on the civil registration system......the main ones i can think of that werent were Xplanes the B52's and the SR71.
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Re: What is a civil aircraft?

Postby tor lives » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:48 am

oz rb fan wrote:the main ones i can think of that werent were Xplanes the B52's and the SR71.


Operated by a civilian agency....NASA :D
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Re: What is a civil aircraft?

Postby oz rb fan » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:47 pm

try and enter them in the civil catergory at expo........ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: What is a civil aircraft?

Postby tor lives » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:28 pm

oz rb fan wrote:try and enter them in the civil catergory at expo........ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Given that I pay for the friggen category, I think there is a better then even chance :D
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Re: What is a civil aircraft?

Postby hrtpaul » Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:51 pm

tor lives wrote:
oz rb fan wrote:Given that I pay for the friggen category, I think there is a better then even chance :D
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Not much point having a civvie category if that's how it's gonna be. Given that logic, civvie operated aggressors in military schemes could be entered as they are operated by civilian contractors which is NOT what the category was set up for. Not much point entering models if the table is gonna be diluted with other categories entries IMHO.
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Re: What is a civil aircraft?

Postby tor lives » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:26 pm

hrtpaul wrote:
tor lives wrote:
oz rb fan wrote:Given that I pay for the friggen category, I think there is a better then even chance :D
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Not much point having a civvie category if that's how it's gonna be. Given that logic, civvie operated aggressors in military schemes could be entered as they are operated by civilian contractors which is NOT what the category was set up for. Not much point entering models if the table is gonna be diluted with other categories entries IMHO.


I don't think you will need to worry Paul because firstly, I don't make the rules.....Model Expo Committee does that, and secondly, it's not as if I finish any model for any category anyway. I am just the dumb f@#k who pays for it all :D .
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