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Revell A350-900 to -1000

Postby Ansett A330 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:54 am

Seeing I got a couple of these cheap I have been looking into this but thought I would ask if anyone (especially Ray seeing he's completed a Revell kit as a Finnair example) has any thoughts on how to go about making a -1000 from the Revell A350-900 given the published changes for example :

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My understanding of the Undercarriage bay is that it's just the bay area that is one Frame larger meaning enlarging the bay and not adding one additional Frame in this area. So really that shouldn't be too hard. This is different to the A340 -500/-600 Centre Section which added Frames to accommodate the -500/-600 double centre Boogie instead of the -200/-300 single centre Boogie.

The Wing being moved forward by one Frame I can only think would make the Trailing Edge in the same location given the 14 percent (? forgot where I read that) increase in Wing Area from the Trailing Edge extension (the latter of which should be relatively easy but means sacrificing the second kit's wings to make the bigger trailing edge to put on the extended kit but also meaning no left over wings to put on an A330 kit to make an A330 Neo or whatever it is called). The way the kit Wing to Fuselage joint is would make this easy and hard. Easy to cut out a notch on the leading edge and cut a slot off the front of the Wing location tab and then glueing the cut off slot at the back of the tab but putting this modified Wing into the very deep Fuselage "glove" would require a lot of filling and sanding as the "glove" is perfectly matched to the Wing cross section so moving the Wing forward in this "glove" will result in gaps.

Anyway with -900s being more prolific than -1000s and at the rate that Operators are cancelling -1000s and changing them to -900s as there seems to be stories everywhere of this occurring it's probably better off saving -900 kits rather than cutting two up to make a -1000 no matter how cheap the -900 kits were!
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Re: Revell A350-900 to -1000

Postby RayS » Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:32 am

Rob,

I think the most difficult part will be to modify the gear bogies (hmm, I wonder if you could use a B777 bogie?), the plugs are easy and from the diagram rather than using 2 sets of wings I would extend the trailing edge with some card and relocate the flap track fairings aft.

For the bay, if the gear attachment point in the same relative location then it would be a case of just scribing an enlarged fuselage gear door.
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Re: Revell A350-900 to -1000

Postby Ansett A330 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:17 pm

Thanks Ray for the (quick!) reply.

RayS wrote:I think the most difficult part will be to modify the gear bogies (hmm, I wonder if you could use a B777 bogie?)


Good Point. But what about using the A380 Triple Bogies? Must dig out an A380 kit and have a look.

RayS wrote:the plugs are easy ...


Touch wood.

RayS wrote:and from the diagram rather than using 2 sets of wings I would extend the trailing edge with some card and relocate the flap track fairings aft.


Another good point which will leave the wings open to be used on an A330 Neo if that is what the wing is on that.

RayS wrote:For the bay, if the gear attachment point in the same relative location then it would be a case of just scribing an enlarged fuselage gear door.


I'll have to have a closer look at the kit as if the wing is moved forward one Frame then it'll be interesting to see what effect that has on the Undercarriage leg (Oleo?) and the Bay location and hence determine where it's extension will have to be made with a Triple Bogie in there.



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Re: Revell A350-900 to -1000

Postby Ansett A330 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:27 pm

Ansett A330 wrote:Anyway with -900s being more prolific than -1000s and at the rate that Operators are cancelling -1000s and changing them to -900s as there seems to be stories everywhere of this occurring it's probably better off saving -900 kits rather than cutting two up to make a -1000 no matter how cheap the -900 kits were!


Maybe should have added there too that there is always the chance (however remote) that Revell could do what Zvezda did with the 787 where they did the -800 first and then the -900 (and probably give thanks to those who did a -900 from the -800 kit thus adding weight to the one of the Laws of Modelling where "Thou shalt be a Kit produced of something once a number of brave Souls have expended large amounts of time and sweat either scratchbuilding or converting it from something else") and eventually produce a kit of the -1000.

Time will tell I suppose.
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Re: Revell A350-900 to -1000

Postby F-27pax » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:04 pm

Is anyone else apart from Qatar flying -1000s so far? For me the most difficult part of a conversion of the Revell kit would be the undercarriage so I think I'll wait until somebody offers a conversion kit with the right undercarriage and also there are more carriers using it so there are more livery options. In the meantime, I must get on with that -9000.
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Re: Revell A350-900 to -1000

Postby scotty100368 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:21 am

F-27pax wrote:Is anyone else apart from Qatar flying -1000s so far? For me the most difficult part of a conversion of the Revell kit would be the undercarriage so I think I'll wait until somebody offers a conversion kit with the right undercarriage and also there are more carriers using it so there are more livery options. In the meantime, I must get on with that -9000.
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Order book as of Aug '17 (Wikipedia) stood at:

3 - Air Caraibes
9 - Air Lease Corporation
10 - Asiana Airlines
18 - British Airways
20 - Cathay Pacific (first one has just rolled out of the paint shop) https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/picture-cathays-first-a350-1000-rolls-out-of-paint-446522/
22 - Etihad
16 - Iran Air
13 - Japan Airlines
12 - LATAM
37 - Qatar
1 - undisclosed
8 - Virgin Atlantic
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Re: Revell A350-900 to -1000

Postby RayS » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:06 am

Rob,

On the wing mod, spoke to our Scotty over lunch yesterday and he suggested adding the wing extension nearer tot eh centre of the wing or perhaps the flap hinge line. A bit more work but more aesthetically pleasing in the end.
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Re: Revell A350-900 to -1000

Postby Ansett A330 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:02 pm

F-27pax wrote:For me the most difficult part of a conversion of the Revell kit would be the undercarriage so I think I'll wait until somebody offers a conversion kit with the right undercarriage


Good point but I'm not going to hold my breath as I look ugly enough without turning Purple!



F-27pax wrote:In the meantime, I must get on with that -9000.
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Great! If it's anything like your other builds I can't wait to see the build Thread and photos.
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Re: Revell A350-900 to -1000

Postby Ansett A330 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:04 pm

scotty100368 wrote:
18 - British Airways
20 - Cathay Pacific (first one has just rolled out of the paint shop) https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/picture-cathays-first-a350-1000-rolls-out-of-paint-446522/
22 - Etihad
37 - Qatar


Couple of good options in there!
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Re: Revell A350-900 to -1000

Postby Ansett A330 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:06 pm

RayS wrote:Rob,

On the wing mod, spoke to our Scotty over lunch yesterday and he suggested adding the wing extension nearer tot eh centre of the wing or perhaps the flap hinge line. A bit more work but more aesthetically pleasing in the end.


Ah great suggestion from the Canberra Brains Trust. Makes a lot of sense.
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