747 production to end in 2020

[hrtpaul]

Don't get me started on bloody aeronautical engineers

Yeah especially Aeronautical Engineers - go for it Willy!

Can't figure out what your point is man

[tor lives]

Don't get me started on bloody aeronautical engineers

Yeah especially Aeronautical Engineers - go for it Willy!

Can't figure out what your point is man

Yeah....I am sorta scratching my head as well (again )
TOR

[oz rb fan]

All aircraft suffer from idiot aeronautical engineer syndrome to some extant but some seem to have gone out of their way to be completely stupid with their designs, Piper and Beechcraft (I'm sure there's others) I'm looking at you

Yeah....I remember the techos at 34SQN complaining about the HS-748. From a maintenance perspective she was apparently less than "user friendly" (although I did enjoy flying in her).
And don't get me started about Airbus design philosophy .
TOR

A mate of mine was a gunnie in the RAAF and at one point worked on the Mirage - nightmare he said. The fuselage was so crammed with all sorts of bits n bobs, anything that need replacing or getting to required often extreme dexterity. Hmm, does sound like one of our members here is suffering LAME induced BKS - Bleeding Knuckle Syndrome!

as the son of an engineer that probably put that mirage together.....it's how the French told them to.(he prefer's the Avon Sabre anyway...he worked on them as well)

[Adam the Akrodude]

as the son of an engineer that probably put that mirage together.....it's how the French told them to.(he prefer's the Avon Sabre anyway...he worked on them as well)[/quote]

Those damn Frenchies strike again! I think it comes down to what Paul is saying from a user perspective. Sometimes not a lot of thought goes into the ease of assess to some components/parts when replacement is required. Some companies do this better than others - not just in aircraft but automotive design, etc.

[Adam the Akrodude]

You are being a bit harsh as it wasn't for engineers to design the aeroplane you work on and pilots to wear them out and occasionally bend them, you'd be out of a job mate!

Righto princess. Come up to Mendi with me next week and I'll let you loose on the Comanche if heaven forbid, that piece of shit is still there and we'll see how harsh you think I'm being after you've had a crack at some "marvellous" engineering designs. Once again, you forget that you DON'T fly in the beginning if engineers don't build the aircraft. Pilots ARE last place in the food chain whether ya like it of not.

Point taken, but you can't afford me! Dude, I agree with you but it's a symbiotic relationship - engineers, pilots and LAME's can't exist without each other. Then throw in all the other trades/jobs in aviation, then the regulating government organisations, etc - it's basically a freakin miracle any aeroplane is able to launch into the wide blue yonder!

[Cap'n Wannabe]

You are being a bit harsh as it wasn't for engineers to design the aeroplane you work on and pilots to wear them out and occasionally bend them, you'd be out of a job mate!

Righto princess. Come up to Mendi with me next week and I'll let you loose on the Comanche if heaven forbid, that piece of shit is still there and we'll see how harsh you think I'm being after you've had a crack at some "marvellous" engineering designs. Once again, you forget that you DON'T fly in the beginning if engineers don't build the aircraft. Pilots ARE last place in the food chain whether ya like it of not.

Point taken, but you can't afford me! Dude, I agree with you but it's a symbiotic relationship - engineers, pilots and LAME's can't exist without each other. Then throw in all the other trades/jobs in aviation, then the regulating government organisations, etc - it's basically a freakin miracle any aeroplane is able to launch into the wide blue yonder!

Funnily enough, take *out* the regulating government organisations, and aviation ticks along quite happily!

[erussell]

Funnily enough, take *out* the regulating government organisations, and aviation ticks along quite happily!

it would be an interesting experiment to have totally unregulated aviation......... I'm guessing the experiment would go about five hours.
Probably the nearest thing to it is aviation in the less civilised parts of Africa. Just as well there is low traffic density and many other factors........

[Cap'n Wannabe]

Funnily enough, take *out* the regulating government organisations, and aviation ticks along quite happily!

it would be an interesting experiment to have totally unregulated aviation......... I'm guessing the experiment would go about five hours.
Probably the nearest thing to it is aviation in the less civilised parts of Africa. Just as well there is low traffic density and many other factors........

I'm not suggesting unregulated aviation....just sensibly regulated aviation, and not the clusterf%*k we have now..

[Ansett A330]

Don't get me started on bloody aeronautical engineers

Yeah especially Aeronautical Engineers - go for it Willy!

Can't figure out what your point is man

Well as the proclaimed "Head A/CAM Phantom Phanatic and Shit Stirrer" you didn't want to get "started on bloody aeronautical engineers" and as a Mechanical Engineer it's good to see a different branch of Engineers having $hit hung on them than my own branch so I was just encouraging you to get started.

[tor lives]

Well as the proclaimed "Head A/CAM Phantom Phanatic and Shit Stirrer" you didn't want to get "started on bloody aeronautical engineers" and as a Mechanical Engineer it's good to see a different branch of Engineers having $hit hung on them than my own branch so I was just encouraging you to get started.

Man.....this is WAY too deep for me. It makes my head hurt .
This is why mechanical engineers should stick to "mechanical engineery thingies", and leave the comedy to the comedians
PS: who the f@#k is "Willy"
TOR